No white water conoeing for me, they're too undstable. I need to be in a wide raft for that...lol. I just love how relaxing it feels to float in a conoe on a river with ever-changing scenery. You got me on the kayaking, never did that. Not really something that I've wanted to do because it seems like you'd get too wet. I only want to get wet when I'm swimming, or bathing of course...lol. Around the northwest, there are so many mountains, rivers, waterfalls, lakes, forests, and beaches from which to choose. You ever go kayaking?